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I'm here with Cheryl escalates and her mother August 2, 2018 and why don't you start by telling me about yourself. So you were born in Houston. Tell me about your parents, hard working people. They worked in a grocery store uh lived in the heights wrong side

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of the tracks for the jewish people. A number of jewish people out in the Heights in those days. Was that what what were their names? The other people that lived in your parents name, Lillian kaufman, Lillian kaufman Benjamin, Dave, kaufman, kaufman Rice. Until the war interrupted

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his. And when were you born October 15, 1920. I learned that history. History. Birthday. Oh yeah it was a fateful day. So how did your family get to Houston? Well my mother as I said was born here. Her parents were from Russia and the 9th the

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day that they got married in Russia. The two of them with her mother that was would be my great grandmother. They got out of Russia and uh I don't know how they got. As I understand they got to uh michigan or Canada first and then they

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came down to texas. Why or how? I have no idea. I never never thought to ask to find out family family. Well came to my dad's family from Russia but he came over later finished with your mom's family. Um They came to Houston. They had two

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sons in the east I think it was in I think it was michigan I think. But but my mother and two sisters were born here in Houston. So this is actually I guess this is my grandfather. I know this was so her mother's father. So Phillip

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Weinberg. This is his guest citizenship be paper something Honey I guess it's becoming a citizen and stated 1906 and 11. So Lillian before she was Lillian Kaufman was Lillian Weinberg. Yes I had that laminated because it was getting very afraid that's what happened and I wanted

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to because I thought it was interesting history there's something dated on the back official whatever. So and this grandfather her grandfather Phillip Weinberg. So he his name is on the corner stone of it says it was I don't know if it's 1891 or 1898 at one

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time there was a which was and that was conservative. They merged in 40 1946 but I don't remember if it's 18 91 or 18 98 but there is a cornerstone that says President P. Battle steins and he was the owner of it was a department store

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battle scenes. The vice president P. For Phillip Weinberg and has it. So I mean he I think when he was young he was understanding butcher but later on with my memory of him he was what they called the Schamus at Bethel. Oh interesting okay so he

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was a butcher. They had a grocery store your parents, this is your grandparents, your mother's parents, he didn't he Lame until 1941. This poor Pearl Harbor, his wife died in 1925. That was my brother was two years old. My brother was born in 23. Okay so

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we're still talking about your mother's family. Um Philip was your grandfather and phillips wife's name. Your grandmother was ok. And the family you said was active at Dr Sharon or Beth El or both I assume in the beginning of Dr I remember him from Beth El.

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Okay. Right. Which which broke off from but later rejoined. Well dr was the Orthodox and we don't have a lot of documentation left from Bethel but we have a couple of things. So it may turn out not a whole lot mostly a couple of pictures if

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you happen to have anything from Bethel that would be pretty remarkable. I've got my confirmation picture that would be pretty special. Um Okay so Philip and ida Weinberg, Lillian's parents. Yeah. Okay now tell me about um your father, your father, your father, he was Russia. Okay.

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Um I don't really don't know what year he came over citizenship because we've got the yeah but that was later, that was much later because he came over he was in his teens. He uh probably late teens but anyhow was it before World War one or

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after. Was it before World War one 14. Yes they got married before that when they got married in 2019 21 21. But He didn't become a citizen till I think it was during one day in World War II. I'm working 42. Yeah, that was already that

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was World War 2 42. Because World War I remember that my brother was already in the service. I thought the interesting thing was that my grandmother in 41 had to sign this oath of allegiance because she married somebody that wasn't a citizen. I remember my mother

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telling me about that. Yeah. I was like but she's a citizen. But you know that was fascinating when things were done married both of renunciation and allegiance. So because she married a foreigner. Hm. I've never seen that before. It's very interesting, isn't it? Yeah, 1941. Well,

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buy this book because it packed away. Don't worry. I thought it was out. But it didn't. What book is that? The book that the cousin wrote about that? I was telling your father because he says in there with I think they came over. What is that

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papers? All right. And this is this is already 36-41-42-42-41-41. And then like a year later they married it said 1921, Is what the paper says. 21. Right? My brother was born in 23 but he was my brother was already in the service. Yeah. Did he go

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by Benjamin or Dave. He went by Ben. Okay. And did he come over by himself. Benjamin or did he come with other family members? It wasn't immediate. I that's why I was looking for his sisters. Didn't come at the same time with his sisters. No, no.

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His sisters and father came over later. But they never settled in Houston. No, they were in Rochester new york. His mother died in Russia. Okay. And if you want me to go try to pull everything out, it's probably one of those corner pieces with the books.

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But I don't I don't keep talking for a second. Don't don't hurt yourself. I thought I had it out because bob and his book tells you all about that my dad didn't talk that much about it. Yeah. And uh Okay. Um Alright, so Benjamin and lily

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anne married in 1920. Do you know how they met I imagined through friends. I mean I'm sure it was because my dad how he came to texas, I really don't know. But he worked in Rosenberg and Simonson and uh that other people, other men that were

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there, what did he do at that time? It was just and working like in a general merchandise store. And my mom lived here in Houston of course with her fan married in March. Oh thank you. And that's from 1977. So this is a cousin or my

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first cousin and his mother and my dad was a brother and sister and she came over with her sister and their father later? Well, tell me about um tell me about the Heights because that's what it seems like you were born in in the Heights, grew

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up. What was it like as a jewish neighborhood at that time? Well this would have been in the 19 thirties, 19 forties. Most of your jewish family lived over in the southwest side of town. I mean southeast. Excuse me. Yeah. But there were a number of

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jewish families in the Heights, but nothing like what there was over in Washington terrorists and riverside. Right. Was there a congregation in the Heights at any time? Was there any kind or did you always have to drive to? We drove to Beth El uh there was

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one on Houston Avenue called the right that and I don't recall any other. Sure. Yeah. I know this isn't the first jewish family that I've heard of living in the Heights at that. So it wasn't like Gloria parents out there. Have you met Gloria? Okay. She

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she was, her parents had a grocery store and my friend Shirley Katz who was surely harass her parents. They all had grocery grocery store. Nobody else wanted. What was, what did your parents grocery store have a name? The store confidence. Tell them where it was 602

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E 16, 16 and it was, it's probably been 15, 20 years ago now. It was on the home to the Heights home tour. It was more than that honey because I don't know 25 years. I don't I don't even know if whatever but we saw it

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in the paper and she recognized the address so I went on it and and because it was the house in the back and the grocery store front behind but it was then converted into an artist's studio in the front of the house in the back at

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that time. Yeah. And then I think building is still there. It's still there. I mean architect mm he was the architect with the place anyhow. But anyhow did you say that built a building? He was the architect. The N. A. R. D. I'm very familiar with

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him. Yeah he's he designed. Yeah the must have been I don't think he was living then because was built in 61. He's got it. Yeah he's got it. You got information. We have no we have his papers. I have the blueprints for Beth E Sharon in

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my office. Yeah. Also designed Emmanuel. Yeah that would have been earlier. Um and he designed synagogues all over south texas warden Schulenberg. I just remember that name. Yeah. Well that's an interesting little nugget of history if it's true it's true. Way to prove it. But I

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guess not. I don't know what you're gonna find anything on that place but I don't know. I don't know if it's actually home you get historic designation for That. It was built in 1929 when I was born because they were living there. I mean they we

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went from the hospital. I went to 602 e 16. I remember that. But you, as a matter of fact straight out of Leonard scrapbook, it's a, it's a model of what would become. And that's interesting. That's cool mom. I don't, I don't know why that name

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popped into my head. He's a very well known Houston, jewish architect and rice graduate. So we're very proud of him. Uh So did you, did you grow up working in the store? Help? My mother taught me how to use the cash register and uh wait on

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people how to make change and all of that. I was young. I mean, you know during the war time particularly it was hard for help. And my brother was already in the service and when I would come home from school I would help in the store

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a little bit. Uh must have been difficult during the depression to make a living. Well, I don't really remember. I mean I was very little so I really don't remember that part. But I can remember the grocery store and the salesman, there's one in here. I

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don't know, I don't know if I was thinking about it. And one of all of those albums underneath there. And I did get to thinking that I have a picture. What is this? Uh Just grandparents don't ask me never look at these pictures from Russia. Was

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your cousin who compiled this book of history. I mean it really is tremendous. He has a tremendous book here. That's why I was here. This is this, this is my mother and this is your little one, this is my brother and his wife and this is

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me, Maurice, my husband, Cheryl and Bruce. But I was also on another note, my uncle, her brother was an executive director of first really the first, the first one I think when they were still on sophomore Raymond Raymond Kaufman and he mom said at some point

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that he and were responsible, they were instrumental in helping finding the location of where they are in the game. But I'm trying to find a picture in here because I remember how you like that picture, but And there were, when I was growing up, there were

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three Raymond Kaufman's in the city, there was a doctor and there was, this is Raymond R. Kaufman. They had to go by their middle here. This did Ben Kaufman, Ben and lil with their son Raymond in their Houston texas grocery store, 1928. So that was a

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year before I was born. Where is that photo? And then let's see then this tells you, this is where my, my dad worked when it first is the senate when it came to new york. That's a professional photo. How did you get that picture? Do you

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have that picture? No, just that, I mean Bob had him. I don't know how he got him or where he got them from but I don't have them. But I have. So that's your that's your brother. Yes little boy. He was born 23 and this was

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28. He was these were yeah this is c clothing factory where my father worked when he in 1914. Okay you said he worked in general merchandise and you hadn't mentioned to close that? Well no this was before he came to texas texas new york. Okay so

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he was in new york before. I don't know I don't remember. So what what are some of the most, you know what are some of the strongest childhood memories that you have growing up, jewish kid in Houston, your friends school bethel what did you do for

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fun? Used to help in the grocery store. I had friends in the neighborhood that wasn't jewish uh played with them. I remember helping one of them put the nativity scene under the christmas tree. But but uh I went to sunday school actually found report cards. I

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had really pretty good. Yeah okay graduated got some report cards the other day and it was pretty funny. There was some sees on there. There was one that was because it was funny because I was serious with distinction, confirmed with distinction. I've got the program in

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here with a picture. Can't wait to see it. That's really exciting. But there were like I said there were others Rosen swipes at the grocery store out there. The stein's did the there was two family of and you ever hear of Baby Green? Well her parents

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had a grocery store, it was on North Main and then it was a relative of theirs. Lost I think it was had two sons, Herbert and Nathan. They had you know. Yeah but like I said there were jewish families and then there were some that I

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wasn't that familiar with. I mean like my husband Maurice he lived it wasn't right in the Heights. I don't know what they called it. It was on Keene Street and it was I really don't know what they called that section, it wasn't the Heights but uh

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my sister in law, my husband's sister, she has her their father came in through Galveston's, my grandfather, my dad's father. And uh she has I think it's like a bill of lading or something or something but I don't think it's well it was theirs but it

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was the name escalates it wasn't on there. It was I mean it was not the way we spell it today but you know when they came in something a lot of they didn't know anyhow. I mean you know there's an old joke about the cleaners on

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on the street. They both to both Goldberg's across the street, one was chinese and one was jewish and they asked how the chinese, how he did, he said he was behind the man when they came into the pork and and they asked him his name and

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he said same thing and they thought he was saying the same thing and it was Goldberg in front of yeah that's a good one. But also the Sean Ferguson joke right? You know that one? Uh no it's too long to tell on to tell on tape.

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But the the punch line is that the guy practices his name and Yiddish that he's going to tell the customs officer at Ellis Island and then he you know gets off the boat he goes to and and the guy asked him what's your name and he

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says of showing for guests and I already forgot Sean Ferguson. There you go. There you go. Um did you ever experience growing up especially in in the Heights which is not the sort of where most of the jewish community, did you ever experience any anti Semitism

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kids calling you names or no one thing that I remember that I have never been able to forget in high school they used to have what they call the brotherhood week, they'd have an assembly and they'd always have a rabbi, a priest and a minister and

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one year I was in high school already senior high where did you go to high school? Reagan and I went and the girl sitting next to me, she turned to me and she says what are they talking about? What's jewish? And I said what? I can

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remember that. She said, I never heard of that before. I wondered if she'd been living under a rock or something. I have heard. I said I'm jewish. Really? I can remember that that conversation. I mean I had never heard it but no, I never experienced any

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anti Semitism. I'm happy to say. I don't know you went to Reagan high school where is or was Reagan high school? I don't remember the addresses was off of. I can find elementary school Eugene field and Hog junior high and Reagan high school and that they

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were all you know in the Heights. Do you have many jewish classmates? Yeah. When we would, when my folks would close for for the high holidays, people that had knew or didn't know. They were always so surprised because they said they thought my mother was italian

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and my dad was german, he was fair. My mother was a little darker. Uh but anyhow. But no, I don't recall ever having any problems with that. Tell them about your, your story about Shirley teaching you to drive well it was such a different world then.

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I mean my friend Shirley cats, they had a grocery store on PICO or and uh we lived as I said on in the area where they were not the jewish people and her father told her to drive when she was 10, 11 years old and in

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those days you could get a license I think at 14. But she was before that and uh when we were probably 12 maybe we used to go up from our area over to the other area like for a young lady a meeting or something. And uh

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I mean two little girls who didn't know from nothing from anything and but it was such a different world and my dad, he got Parkinson when he was 15, he was diagnosed with it. But I remember probably before that, I don't know because we were still

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in the grocery store. Shirley was telling someone the other day about this that my dad one day handed her the keys to our car and said teach in is to drive if you can imagine and I never story Inez couldn't learn to shift the gave up.

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And so my husband taught me to drive when I was pregnant with her, wow. Oh my goodness. That is crazy. It is crazy that when we think about it, Shirley and I said because we've been, she lives here now to Oshie does miracle that she's still

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alive. It was such a different world. Yeah. Oh my goodness! What is that? We put some stuff on the top. Oh boy wonderful. Said you were active in the neighborhood girls and then we started a with young women when we got a little bit older girls

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anymore. That's right from the girls to the young woman if neat Henry. I have been here. Okay, here's my confirmation picture and then the program. Oh this is wonderful, 1945. Yeah, this would have been the last I think because I think the next year 46 is

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when it would have been the last one. Yeah. Yes It was wonderful. This is you just think it's 1940 rabbi Blumenthal was away. It was what you had, you had that was there was the rabbi at that time was sacks can crash softly cancer at that

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time. This is all the bison work of Henry. This is my confirmation. This is great. Do you know Rabbi morgen and Beth assurance. So Rabbi morrigan has been searching for information about a rabbi named moses Sax. I think his name was Bernard Sachs. So he's m

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Bertram sacks on this program may be the same one. I think we did. So I showed him that picture. I don't know if we showed it to him. I think we talked, we talked about it and he never said anymore so I didn't push it with

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him. Yeah, he's looking for a friend of his. No, I is teachers are the Hartman Institute is a friend of Rabbi morgan's, this is his death. I'm almost certain. Well sent send them a picture of it now. Where are you? Point him out, point yourself out,

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can you find yourself? I'll find you right here. Do you have a pencil? We're gonna write all the names on the back. Okay, but we want to use a pencil so the ink doesn't bleed. Yeah. How fun. Oh my gosh! Beth el religious school. Really serious

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stuff. Yeah, absences. What would you do with a student with six? I'd be happy with six absences school. Well, we have the program. So we have all the names. What would you like anything to drink besides water? I've got coffee and diet coke, ginger ale. Yeah,

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sure. Maybe just water, water. You want to get some water shop. I have coffee if you want it maybe later. Okay. Okay. So let's see. So what we're gonna do, what we're gonna try to do and here maybe what we'll do is I'll get a notebook

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And we'll go left to right and we'll see how many people you can identify because in 50 years someone's gonna look at this photograph and say can't find a picture that I was looking a few years back. Someone uh it was by Rosen's father. It was,

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he had a picture, a big picture of a bunch of us that probably was back in the late forties or something like that probably. And we got married in 52 we were trying to identify everybody in it and we have we got most of them, but

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not all Okay, left to right. This first one is Jerome. Rosenberg, Jerome Rosenberg. Okay. Is 2nd 1 is Archie leader. Archie leader looks like you've got two programs which is great. I love it when people have to the next one. Archie. Okay, so we got jerome,

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we got Archie. The next one is Harold Kaplan with the sea and he lives, he's here in brookdale. Oh wonderful. Does he know you have this picture? I mentioned it because at the naming of a great nephew, one of his sons was sitting with my man,

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we got to talking and I mentioned this to him and he said he would love to see a copy of it and I never have gotten made a copy to send. I wanted to ask Cheryl to do it and I never did do it anyhow that

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herald. The next one is uh fred Heiman. Why isn't here? Oh there it is. Up at the top. So if they hadn't visit fridge Haman it is. And the next one is it lives X one is Florence Smith. Okay, Betty, I'm sorry. Okay then Florence smith.

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And Florence is next to Betty lou and then the next one is Bernice Alma's K O M A N. S. The Goldberg. You're doing great. And then that's Cantor Crass off teacher. Her name was Schwab, I don't remember. So next to Cantor is who our teacher

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name was. Schwab. I think it was. I'm looking on here. I'm sure it's on here somewhere. D S C H W I E d Francis schweid. Yeah, that's uh I'm sure misspelled Francis is a person not a common last name. Dick Blumenthal was the rabbi, but

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he was in the service. He was away. He says chaplain on leave. His amber from Saks was okay. So next to next to miss was a rabbi of sacks, sacks, Geraldine bears and bears. And impressed. You know all these people I was looking at I can't

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do this cooperation stuff. Photo I'm impressed with these people. You're okay confirmed with distinction. You have an asterisk next to your name. Um Who's next to sally Muriel craft. Yeah. I was gonna say there's only one woman left on the program has not spoken for. Takes

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care of that. That's Muriel need Milton. We need louis and ralph for one on the right is really a process of elimination and then wait a minute and then the other one next to him is I'm trying to think he's the only one left, but he

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could have gone by Murray. You know, I mean that's her full name. Milton gets I guess that was some incredible detective work. This is half of my job is people bring in photos and I say who's that? And they say, oh I don't remember. So I

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say okay, we have a photo of people we don't recognize this Chadwick is May I write the names on the back of this photo. Would that be all right? It's real quick. Okay. This is a piece of paper and I don't want to lose the piece

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of paper. Yeah. What was, what was beth l like? It was not a very big congregation. I don't know. I have no conception of the size. Did you attend it regularly other than for for school every sunday to sunday school? Did you go like to services

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services on a friday night? We had this grocery store, grocery store, the high holidays we did because they closed and as I said, my grandfather, I remember him and they used to call him a shamas and he'd walk up and down the aisles and even as

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I can remember, we were, we were in the store and he'd come to visit us and he'd walk up and down the street there on with his cigar in his mouth and the hat and singing songs real quiet to himself. I mean not where anyone else

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can hear him when he would leave us. He'd always say goodbye. Seeing the funny papers, papers, that's what he used to always say. That was when ideal and cheeky. They lived on Isabella in uh Washington once in a while after sunday school. My uncle get me

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to go home with him. Yeah. Most folks your age, your generation went to san no, they lived over in Washington terrace, riverside terrace. But they all went to right. They only went in here that didn't Betty lou cobb Oh and Florence smith lived in Richmond? Yeah,

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but Freddy Hyman. This is funny, I think, I remember, I guess it was during the war time, but I remember when he came to sunday school for the first time, his mother with his sister came in and they were from France. It was during the war.

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Funny remember that you have your speech? Do you want to give it? Do you want to give it again? That's incredible. So what did you talk about? I don't know. Let's find out. I mean, you think about, but it's you know, it's the end of the

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war and the holocaust and everything's going home and you're unbelievable. And here you are, you know, education director of the the daughter synagogue. I grew up products, religious schools. That's funny. I had to get me to go into jewish education. I kept going, no, no, no,

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not interested. Your uncle Raymond? Yes, that's the one. No, this is wonderful, careful. It's attached it's amazing that it still sticks. What is it attached to? Oh the pages, So you graduated presumably from Reagan High School and you were confirmed at Beth el Beth El confirmed

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in 45 graduated high school in 46 46. I was 16 and it was the last of the 11th graders and then what next? I went off to texas september 46. I just went one year. Uh how was that? It's great. Yeah, you came home. Yeah, my

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dad wasn't well and here's a lot of this is some stuff that's really not. I don't know why I even have this. It's not necessarily jewish. Okay, excuse me. Don't worry about that. Houston. You called? Yeah, brothers. Look at all seconds. Mm that water's remark it

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select joe weingarten Chief Leopold Meyer again, heads Beth Israel. How about that? What is this photograph? That's from something. Yeah, but here's the time magazine for a nickel. Oh yeah, I don't know. Why are you in this photograph? Yeah. Back here. Are you sitting with anyone

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you recognize? So these global stings. This is Joel Mandel. Did you know the Mandel's them? This is Al, Al did. This was dr Levinson and his wife. Yeah, this is ralph barber. No, it says you're at a you're at a you're at a Hanukkah Party. You're

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at a Hanukkah Party 1948. You want to get a kick out of the menu. Oh my goodness. Yeah, Williams chicken house opposite rice tea. That was that the place to go. Yeah. Oh boy. Look at that. The a ticket stub from the near tummy today and

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second annual dance Beth Jacob Auditorium fell out of the menu, February 1945. That's something else. Beth Jacob was an Orthodox synagogue. Yeah. Now we have some things from there. I have a I have a World War Two flag that used to hang in February 24, 1945

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went with Leon Nad, I have some leon that stuff double dated. I'm reading this on the your notes. You have notes on the back. You went with God. What happens when you write it down? You look back at it, You look back and you say, oh

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God, why did I write that down? Yeah. A lot of things You want to see a picture of Leon Net. I got a picture of him winning a debate tournament with Melvin Dow in 19. The same, probably the same year. His daughter from Manhattan sent it

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to me in the mail. Well, could have been. You never know. How about that? Your wedding? No, it's not. Mrs David stall. Yeah. That was great. That sorority. That was glass. Sure. And you don't want any of that. You never know, mom. You never know. I

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mean you're probably right in this case. But people, people say, people say to me all the time, you wouldn't want my old hebrew school report cards. You wouldn't want my old high school yearbook. You wouldn't want my well stuff that's related to growing up, jewish in

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Houston. That's what, that's what we collect. And the idea is to collect it, preserve. It can make it available. Mm hmm. Later that we did organize a neighbor with young women. What did you do with? Who knows? You don't remember? I wouldn't remember. But you might

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have some things from those. I don't think so. Name. I wrote when I was in. Don't ask me why not? There's a young 17th annual. Oh my goodness gracious. Yeah, may I see that? I don't know why I started looking at his here and I never

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he probably loved that stuff here. Nobody else kept this interesting on vacation. Yeah, this is a good find good find mom convention book and got a lot of pieces in it. Less food market to the community Claiborne. No, I just met with Janice and bobby chucker.

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Oh yeah Janice and bobby chucker. Yeah, I'm sure. And then that's this is great. This is just great. Oh and you got autographs. Autographs. Oh anybody famous? Mm hmm. Oh my goodness you kept everything. Oh my Lord Reagan national artists. It's just been stacked away in

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here. Well I'm glad you kept it degrees of charity messiah. Is any person that can lead the jews back to Palestine and freedom. Dia may also be called a savior or an appointed one. Not believe that any one person can lead the jews back to Palestine.

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All the jews together to get back to Palestine and gain equality for the jews. I just recognize your writing Mom 29 1945 was probably maybe I should I was for confirmation. Beautiful but that was for something for confirmation. Probably should be reading it instead of giving

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it to him. Yeah, this looks like it was part of your confirmation. Sure. Here take a look at spring this final this in any particular order. Do you mind if I go go through it as you're putting things here, neighbor policy. Good neighbor policy is you

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were mm more young today. Other tonight I started looking at the program from 46 from Reagan. I'm looking for escorts of under come and then uh that's nothing that's uh formal for going out and I was in texas. Okay there's nothing but there's a lot of

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these magazines here that I don't know if you have any. So I'll take a look at them. It's not really, you know the idea is to do things that are specific to specific to Houston on the jewish. I don't know why I had, there's an ad

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from your parents. There's an ad here from your parents, your parents didn't add in here. We club in high school I guess a week saying some church reward cards for music people. This is little. Oh wow. Yeah amazing. I need some of this stuff you keep,

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you got that right. And I'll tell you something, people don't keep things anymore. I mean today everything is electronics. You don't have the actual stuff, you don't have the actual stuff. It's all there's something about having the actual stuff as opposed to just a picture of

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it. Yeah, it's pretty cool, pretty neat. What is that ship confirmation pictures here? Is that something you'd be comfortable giving to us and I can make you a nice copy of it. I'd like to have a copy to give to Harold? Well I can make, I

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can make a scan of it for Cheryl and then Cheryl can have it printed for you. Yeah, that's pretty rare. And that's the last, that's the last graduated. Yeah, I can show you you want to see a confirmation program a little older than yours from Beth

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El show you one get back. This is the Bethel class of 1932. Look at that. I know. So somebody donated that 30-30 to 30 years before. Yeah, just just a little bit. And then Let's see this is the confirmation program from Bethel 1927. Yeah. Yeah.

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See pretty cool though. Yeah. 45. Cool, cool. But it's cool. But it's the last 1 18 years before man interesting. Who, who was confirmed then? Uh let's see, Jeanette Gerson, Lillian worth, jenny, rudnick, Esther Rotman bertha holland Florence frosh Zelda Andr Rabbi was a Rabbi Blackman.

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This was, I mean it's the same building Crawford and Lamar, right? That's where the convention center is. Yeah. The buildings torn down. I know one time I was with my husband came out from there and I looked up and I said, I said Crawford and that's

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where it was. We need to find there was another one of these, our society society did I go through this stack. Would you allow me to go through it. I don't think there's anything in here. What are the photographs there on the these are just groups.

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Are they are they jewish groups? Yeah, I don't know what this was that. It was just this is when I worked at grocery supply. You recognize any of the people in this? That's that's robert Kahn, that's Rabbi Cahn. Uh This is Sam Merwin Willard pillar, Shirley

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Laufman Lester Rosen the Beverly. And this is also whatever this is. This is pretty important. Figure out what you were doing. I don't know. I don't even have a date on, you know, there is a date October 47 confirmation. This is when we organize being uh

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young women. I'm not in it because there was a night that shaky something back and I see that I've got on the back explaining was engaged and chris Jacobs chapter Recording secretary. Yeah, that's right there. I looked at this project. Not pictured in his coffin. 35

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50 Athens restaurant or a deli or something. Captain's cap Pans Pans Pans. I'm mispronouncing it because I'm not an A. N. S. First installation, March 1950. And like I said, I wasn't there because my cousin got engaged. Thanks a lot. Not pictured on marriage that lasted.

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So you know. Oh boy, you really missed out. But her second marriage, she's been over 51 years. Well that's good. I'm on my second marriage to I'm doing much better now. That's what I'm on my second marriage to I'm a big fan of second marriage. I

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don't I don't remember how long she was married the first time, maybe, maybe 10 years. I really don't matter. But it doesn't matter. But her second one, it's over 51 years. That's impressive date on it and everything. That's another photo I'd like to have and I

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can make copies of everything. This is this is Gloria. If you know Gloria. Oh that's Gloria rhythmic. Oh my gosh. Yes it is. She. Yeah, I wouldn't have made the connection right away. That's incredible. All right. We could go on and on. We could do this

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all day. I want to show you this because I've got a bunch of stuff here from BBW and stuff which you may not want. But this was so I ended up when BBW sort of went away here which then became Wi In Houston, I sort of

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inherited everything because I was sort of the last whatever and I was on the National Board at the time and this was 19. No it was it was here until probably 90 something I guess. I'm not sure when it went away here in Houston. Anyway, this

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was a 50 year thing and it is yours if you want it. I have more than one. Yeah. This is a lot of old pictures and articles. I have no idea what have you ever been through them at some point. I looked at it now. Mom

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could probably help to identify more people than I can, but but they're stuck by the decades. Okay. This one overlaps 40s and 50s by the decades. Yeah. I mean, these are really some of them are labeled. These I think would be really helpful. No idea moving

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at 34 11 deal. Great Boy, Is this great? These 1950s pictures in?