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Thanks. Take care of. Yeah. Yeah, you are welcome. I be great in my age. And yes, the what they call early Chinese uh come to this town and I can tell you whatever I know its just a symbol. Uh oh, first in Chinese and I miss

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it adapt to their life over here. That's not too much outstanding. Just work hard. Uh Chinese they can hang up. Uh You done? You done? Um ok. So let's start. Um we want to begin with your childhood experience um living on mainland China because you

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said that in your uh questionnaire that you um had an apprenticeship in China. Uh What's your experience in that? Even when you were in China? Oh, even in China. Well, I come from the village childhood play around over there. We don't have toy anything but we

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make our toy. We have fun, just like our grandchildren. They have fun with a different toy like that. We don't have anything but we can create our, our, we go catching fishing and make mud pie and heat it all kind of fun. We enjoy childhood and

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then, then my was a and when the Japanese invade our area. And then we, at that time, my older sister and my mama just passed away not to Hong Kong. And she said I'm young and not too much to do in our community. So at that

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time, lot of people in our southern go to uh the north of Guangdong, you know that that place so happened. We had some friends over there. So they say, OK, can you, you know, look after me and this, I say their relative. So I went up

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there and then for until the war over then I come back home and then come to the United States. So my childhood were not really too much outstanding, remarkable thing to to to say just ordinarily ordinary old Chinese, you know childhood about your printing. OK, when

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I was in the over there and then you know, you cannot do nothing. So my relative uh know some people and all that. They say the come in need some help. At that time, I might be how old 13, 14 years old. So at that time,

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I don't know what I say, OK, as long as they give me food and place to stay, that's all and let them spend their money. So I went in the printing company. So its a and over there and I learned how to pick the Chinese character.

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I miss it, com compose thing. So I learned it and I never think about I would ever use it. But somehow when I get into this printing uh business in Houston, it come in handy. At least the knowledge, not exactly the same skill but uh in

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the printing company with the knowledge and all those things. And besides, I always, I don't have the formal education. They went to the school in our community and no more chance for me to go to the school. So I, I always say I never seek to

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learn any time. I pick up the Chinese book English book. I don't use it. I cannot match the Chinese uh English or anything. But you, you, you know, you uh you know, you study, look at that long enough, you learn something a little bit by little

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bit. So I, I learned that I'm interested in that thing right now. I, I would say I never been exposed to the old Chinese classic. Like all those things, III I like to read the, all those things. And especially I developed a hobby. I play music,

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I play violin. Now I play the guitar and I, I, because I play with a group of Children, the young girls, they sing and we play along, provide the music for them to, to, to along. So when I hear Tom, I play alone, I put on

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the tape, I just listen to the thing and I read, if not, when I retire over here, it's very boring. And so far I go out for a walk and play the music and all my time seems pretty good. Yeah. And grandchildren come here now. They

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grown up, they have their own friends. They don't come that much no more. So, my childhood really in China is not too much. Uh, um, don't have any kind of that colorful with, um, we're also interested in, I think how you come to the United States?

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Did you, did you have any money with you or did you go through the process of? I hear some you am I gonna mention that you did? And this is your Yeah, my sister in Houston, my older sister in Houston and then her husband been in

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business over here, been here a long, long time and somehow he, they initiated how to bring me come to Houston by myself. That's it. You if they provide the money for me to uh well, about the money. My father was the overseas Chinese in Canada. And

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you know, and so he provide all the financial things I I need but over my brother in law and they already do take care of that and the paper work and immigration, things like that. I come over here. Mhm. To the United States. I beat you

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by, I bring myself one luggage symbol. Very simple. We don't have anything anyway. Yeah. Did you have any book? Good. So, well, the truth is something like that. I read that I don't even know what kind of book I read. I know. Not particularly anything like

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that. We just, I bring myself over here to Houston. So, after you came here you live with your sister? Yeah. They have the grocery store out over here in coastal navigation and, and dry. And so I, upstairs they have a living corner and I stayed there

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with some, a part owner and I help whatever I can. But yet the day time I go to English special school and learn the English. And after that, and then uh I did what happened in the Korean War. So they, the government, the United States government

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draft me into the service. That's how they are. I get the basic training over here after the basic training and they sent me out to Europe. And so what happened? Some of my comrades, they went to a different direction. But anyway, they assigned me stationed in

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Germany. So how I met my wife? That's a 57 years ago. We've been married that long. Yeah. So did you receive any train? Oh, yeah. They give you basic training out in El Paso for El Paso. Oh, you talk about that when you know in the,

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in the army, they, I utilize all kind of opportunity. Go to educate myself like winter time, not too much activity and they really do nothing. I know that what they call maintaining the equipment they do every year. They do the same thing when I find out

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they had their, they had some kind of program if I want to apply to school and I can wear the first class uniform and take the fatigue and go to work. And then I wear that and I go to attend the school. I say, well, I

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don't have any education in English. So I study English and study type in all of those things, whatever they, they have program, I tried to apply for it and they all all you know, if you want to learn the, you come and accommodate you very, very

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good. That's I think for the army, it's really good for me. And another thing to feeling being the Chinese over here, you deal with the Chinese, you stay with the Chinese more likely in in China, you go outside, you see the American people but the live

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in style and everything is still Chinese. So but give me when I was in a servant, I eat with the American and you know, uh talk with them and see their custom just open my eye and I see the different culture. So give me, I mean

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it help me uh in a way. So you know, so I come over when I in business, very easily adapt to. Yeah. Did you, did you have any um connections or anything with the military? No, no, no, no, nothing. That's when I come over here after

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two years. And then if you were drafted and you can, you can, you don't have to re enlist. Uh I know that, you know, take so much American, I mean, the American government to train a soldier, they always want you to re enlist to make, utilize

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the money they spend on you. I say no way, I want to go back and go and work and then I, in my mind, I say I learned the trade. I want to be in prison myself. So that's a step by step. Fulfill my so called

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the dream well, work hard. But I always tell my grandchildren some young people when you are young, nothing is so hard because you are so full of energy. You are, you are not tired or something like that. Right now, I do a little bit outside. All

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we kind of, you know, at that time when you young, you know, full of energy and you know, all over here, over confident on my own self at the end. And then we, I think I met my wife in Germany, come back and she come along

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and then later on and we open the grocery store. She helped me in the, in the business and then later on, we had some more other Children but they all doing good, the Children. So the family score, ok. The reason we wanted to go to grocery

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is how many of his money at that time on I think in San Francisco and other cities they had started off with the LA but here it was mostly grocery. You see Chinese, the autumn come from the west coast, from west coast, then go to east

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coast, New York, something like that. But mostly they come to San Francisco and over there the people, Chinese, what a year, what can you do when you come from China? You don't have any skill, you don't have any money. And besides at that time, they even

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prejudice against China, Chinese much more than when I come. So what Americans don't do left for them laundry and all that, they, they do a restaurant, they do those things. So time need it. What you can say that we had the old philosophy on you are

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on when you put the situation, you see the thing like you to the situation comfortable, make a living, what more you want. So the how they do in being away from the big city like San Francisco and all those things like that and you have to

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deal with the local people, you were able to speak the language. And then during the war, I guess the, the few, not that many Chinese over here, most of them, they even come from San Antonio. Houston is very Houston you can call, I mean very few

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Chinese come over here. So they come mostly come from San Antonio later on from the other part of the because because they heard about the good opportunity over here So they come over here more and more people and Chinese like that. When you have relative in

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that kind of friend in that kind of, you try to learn the trade, the trade and you get into it. So for me, come over here, my brother in law and the partner in, I stay over there, I learn it. You know, you really common sense

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and work hard, nothing else. Then you start over in the business and then not only that common sense the most, I tell myself, I, I'm not. When I come over here there was a, I, our kind of friend, I might be, don't educated, but I have

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the PD friend friend because they know when they hear me talk, they right away, they go and they, many of them, they kind of look down in the Southern because he laundry man, restaurant man, man, I look down sometimes I couldn't stand. I, I said, look,

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if it, you get the, uh, you know, graduate from college. Is this nothing? We don't have opportunity if we had opportunity. Phd. So what you can learn, I can learn. That's how confident we have in our commission. And I always say, don't look down on those

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things. You know, they don't have the opportunity, the inter, but that's still when you get the degree in the college, you still go outside and work just like that. Uh Like in this corner, if you've been in the education, the teacher, the teacher go this way.

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So the, so the way go there. If I never been there, I danger over use my own thing. I don't know what the ST and blood in the middle. I go this way for sure. I could get it. Take a little longer. That's all I say.

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I already tell them. I say, look, I don't care if you had a college degree phd. If you are not common sense, you're nothing but educated. So I say more Muslim here. Look at in China, many people don't even have any kind of opportunity to get

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education. I say not so much is so proud. So you know, look down on other people to bring yourself up right there because they do that kind of job. They don't have other way. That's simple, just like that. Sometimes they say, oh I'm not talking about

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you. I say, yeah, I hear you talk about me right there. I, I didn't say it much but I, I know what I'm doing. So I come over here, just go to the English class, learn a little bit and get into big business, business in the

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common center. I tell later on we have many many employee employee, a tourism employee work for her. Yeah, I don't need. Most of the Chinese had been in black neighborhood and around that time they started to that they wanted you to make the news here. The

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like organizations and the commercial arm and also today a lot of hold ups and we decided we have to get out of that. And we sold our business and tried to think what could we do? We have five Children. And he remembered his printing experience and

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there were no Chinese printers at that time in Easter. So actually he was the very first one to start with the business. Mhm. So, where did you get the capital to start your own the grocery store? I think his father helped him out and he had

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to borrow money from father. Your father wasn't here. But you see China, all there parents always have the best help their Children the most. For me, it's the same thing if my Children need help, I'd be glad if I'm able to, I will help them regardless.

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No reservation. I help the Children and they will help their Children. They can see the example. And so how are you? But another thing too, you talk about common sense. Did you, when you, when you started your grocery store, did you receive any um help from

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the Chinese community, local people, the local people. And another thing II I tell you a story about this over here. He is the online association and this play. They had the big hall and big building down in street and one time a to hold up to

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kill some Chinese merchant and they had a meeting how to how to deal with the and all those things like that. So I attend and all do things like that. I didn't say too much. So many smart people, they know more and let them talk and

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all those things like that. But I can form to think in my mind. I say you are over here making a living in the local people. You cannot be a uh I mean, openly let them feeling you come over just make their money. Don't like that.

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I said, you have to be sincere how uh what I think Chinese called good to your neighbor. That's important. When they come over here, they think they will come and they will come. I remember the old lady come almost every day, come like that. And then

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one time they had some kind of black Muslim not too far from uh you know, at that time, those people, they try make hard time for you and all of those things and they go over there and, and all those things like that. And then the

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my customer tell them, look, if you want to make trouble, go somewhere else, meet them, meet their nice people and talk to them when they say warm work better. I explain for 100 word to, to to them. So they look at them and they laugh, you

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know, people just, you know, uh we mistreat them more time travel. You try to make, you know, lot of people like they try to, you know, I don't know what they up to. So I say being in business in the neighborhood, whatever, they have some Chinese

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groce store in the white neighborhood too, like they are big market, you know, I mean, mostly, but regardless and when you do with your customer, not like big Foley or CEO way up there, they will never see the customer or something like that. But that's important

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when you have personal contact with your customer, you will be nice to them, make them feel welcome and they keep coming back and then very, very important common sense too. Tell you, you know, so I at that time I say Chinese insect no matter what it

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is bad people or all the way everywhere. But if you, I mean the important thing, the good to your neighborhood, not, it's very important in business. When you don't need it, you don't need it. I mean, when you are in the business, you need their trade.

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You have to, you. That's how I found my my and now they come, come to play you, you, you see your head, that's it. You know, those when you, you go to college probably you're gonna learn those things. You will learn it on the tree. So

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why did you, when you started the grocery store business? Why did you choose? I think it's why did you choose that? Excuse me? Because I was a, my brother in law and 80% of, mostly in close of business. So that's a trend more else. And so

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he, something on the, and we found out that this store is and located in the right place. It's not only that too at that time. You don't have much choice. All right, when you want to look for the business, the sales people like, oh, I know

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that the store for sale because they want to get old, they want to retire or maybe they make enough money, they want to or do things like that. So not by choice but look around different store on sale. See which one you use your judgment, kind

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of your own ability. What can you do? Maybe they, they, they don't know how to run. They don't run it right. The business go down if you run it right. And maybe you bring up the business and then they store for sale, not too much business

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and they always cheaper. So you can get it a bargain price and you can use your ability to bring up the business. And then I think our, our grocery store, we do lots of business more than the previous owner because I say I, I treat the

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customer right and get the fresh fruit and go to the former market. Work hard. No question about that. You know, and then bring the thing in, get the meat in, get the pass out reasonable price. What more you want? That's a grocery store. Could you cater

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more towards neighborhood? No, Chinese food. Nothing strictly neighborhood. A grocery store. And then those would sell the, oh, yeah. And different, different things in our relationship, I think. Yeah. Uh, that, that mostly Hispanic over there. I know they, I even learned some Spanish too. Oh, yeah.

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You got it when you hear it, day in, day out. You, you could, uh, come in there, you know. how did you, do you agree? Symbol might be first, I didn't say it correct, but I can ask you how you say it. You know, I mean,

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you learn, you know, you learn from them too and they like it. They don't mind, they teach you and then right here you know what they call uh uh the, you learn those Chinese. Yeah. And about this today I read this book about talk about the

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Chinese big boat, big ship. I think that might be Chinese. I think that in, in, in, in, in Chinese, I think that's the only one I remember. I read a little bit something of that. So Chinese they, they use their Oh yeah, that's important. Reasonable. I

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don't want to get their arm and leg one time. They never come back. No, sir. I say the customer will keep coming back. That's a good sign. So what were prices like that? You want? The price? Usually the people say 10% or 20% mark up 20%.

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Sometimes I can see those items. More popular people buy all them, they easy to remember. They buy, they, them might be 12% and something like 10% like that. Those things not too much, then they buy our import. They don't, you know, pay a little bit more

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and especially the vegetable, the meat, you know, the good fresh, keep it up good. And, you know, I mean, a reasonable raise, the kind of person. Ok. The short low credit I remember was 19,000 and she know more detail than I do. I really. Yeah. So

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you have me in the economy. So those were some of the Chinese. They say, I say you are a good help to your husband. Yeah, I tell you this. I said, yeah, we still, you know, didn't hear too much squabble go. I'm 40 something years. Still

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break up. Oh, yeah. Um, did you, when you were running the store, your own store? Did you employ anyone or just? Oh, yeah. And he was the brother of the previous owner and he stayed on as a church and then we had one black delivery on

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the bicycle. You had a bicycle distracted and they were purchasing the, to hear it. So he smoke his store and he was good at what he did on the show. Yes. No. So, in a way that we have more uh people come and help us, like

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after school they would come and do the work. How much did you pay them? Oh, at that time, according to the market price we pay them they would. Yeah. So, did you, because I, I remember Mr Lisa when he was

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at his, um, sis sister's, um, uh, yeah, brother in law's grocery store. They live upstairs from their grocery store. Yeah. What a year? Let me tell you something at that time. Mostly previously, mostly the Italian people in this business. Later on when they, they make it

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now they retire. Most of the Chinese take over after you have the capital. Later on, you can open a new one supermarket, something like that. But I say basic that small papa mama store, mostly Italian people want to sell them. The Chinese buy it and operate

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the same thing. Save some money later on, you can open the make a bigger store. And so those people, Italian people, they mostly they are also living in the neighborhood mostly up up there in the corner so they can live, I mean, say one more, I

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mean a million, 10,000,003, save the expensive. I miss your idea what more you want. So until you have the foundation, I said I got more than nothing. And because at that time, the wholesaler and they, you know Chinese is very, how you the earth was very

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important and they say no, OK, I will be cos something for you like that later on the the grocery store and he always say, he say the Chinese people help me whole lot when I, you know China wholesale. And he say because the Chinese at that

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time, I don't think so. He ever fail, ever owe him some money and pay back even they had a hardship, they always under the debt. So he had good relationship with, I suppose my brother in law, they sign some how many $1000 for that? He said,

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no, you don't need anything. They just said you need receive it. So it says very important, very important about the credit. And so at that time, I will be make sure I pay my bill on time and I make sure I had a good credit credit.

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That's why later on I opened the prints up. No problem, no problem. So this is more, did you, was that dealing with the bank or was it more among relatives or friends that you like? Oh, ok. Ok. And the owner of the wholesale is deal with

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people. It's still inexpensive. And then he passed away already. The son taken care of them. Grocer wholesale supply. But at that time, he was stopped from small too. He can last a little bit of cash and sale this Chinese school they pick up and all those

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things later on and they grow bigger and the Chinese become their uh steady customer and they had dealt with Chinese for maybe a decade or two decade already. They kind of know how the Chinese do things. So later on when we come in there, they extend

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the same uh court to us. So it helped us because we have no credit. But that's why I run up my relative as a cosigner. I don't go to the bank because the bank anyway. So we have the other so we can get. So it seems

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like we don't have any problem after we started the business. And another thing, we work hard in the business, the cash coming in, they pay all the debt, everything good. But another thing too about hiring people first, we all do whatever you can do until businesses

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can come, you know, come to increase and you hire people to help. But we work out like after the slow we eat some, I just, and stack it up. You know, I always say when you are young, you are young, 110% of competent. It's nothing hard.

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Nothing I cannot do. I mean, you know, you had that kind of so you, you're bound to be success. That's the way I feel if we, if we, that means. Yeah. True. Did you, did you probably expand your grocery store business? Did you expand your corporate

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to expand Houston's weather? Oh, yeah. And the hour from 7 30 to 9 p.m. six days early and Sunday from maybe 8 to 1 and concern in the, for her come from German, Germany and never had the philosophy is different, different from what I

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have. But anyway, you know, and since the uh but she nice lady or never, never, I never have anything uh complaint from her and she, she work out and all those things and German has a lot of virtual, like Chinese hard working and then use their

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head and all that. So we get might be different culture, different way, like common sense besides we want to work together, make the thing go, you don't want to be, you know, fail on the business like that. So the grocery store is a success for us

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coming up with nothing and it was success, save some money, buy the house and all those extra. And then later on about what, what, what is. And at that time I play in the stock market, I look in the chart and all those things that's give

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me a, a tension. I didn't realize that. Then I developed a and then I, I went to the hospital, get my ulcer operate. But now they, they say don't operate in the morning. But anyway, at that time, I think I go operate in. But anyway, after

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that and I feel, I say Children like growing up and the hour we work in the grocery store and not good for the Children, you know, it's ok. We have make something, we had our own house and all that things like that. And finally in, I

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think I want the, the Children have seen their childhood know the parents a little bit more than even the Children who work in the store too. We are Chinese grocery store. The Children had to help out all our friends Children, they help out no complain, you

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know, I mean, nothing. I really spend the money that they don't have. No. Oh, yes. A salary of no such thing besides anyway, they are uh, schooling come first. We all look out for them. We are not as a, you know, uh slave them. No such

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thing. No, not, not that way. No, no. People don't think about that. They don't unthinkable because they don't know what's going on. You got to be how the Children they feel comfortable with you, you look out for them and they, when they go a little, a

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little bit they might be proud. I help my parents and this and that. So they had something they proud about is not feeling bad about. That's the difference. You know, all of my Children now, they had educate over here. They make good grades and I think

00:45:30.429 - 00:45:59.300

our second daughter is a lawyer and, you know, and they, they all, they all doing good their life always sad. So, the grandchildren growing up too and when, when they are, when they are small, I instill to damn my Chinese uh virtue, philosophy in there. Stay

00:45:59.310 - 00:46:20.370

in there. They are always good to the community and they study hard, they excel in their study. And then, I mean, that's all I asked for. I think when you grow up can know what you think about. Nothing. I can do too much, you know. So

00:46:20.379 - 00:46:36.459

that's how it is, I guess in China we do the same thing too. You know, their parents, they always try to encourage you the best for you. But sometimes the Children just don't think that way over here. too much independent thinking. I say when you are

00:46:36.469 - 00:47:02.350

able to thinking you can go outside, you can do whatever you want to do. But when you are small at home is very important. Some time on TV, I saw and there's so many people is disgusting because they are broken family. They, they, they don't know

00:47:02.360 - 00:47:32.020

what to do and they uh you know, I mean, they, they don't see the law, nothing but not Chinese. I say China change too mainly in China, everything change. Maybe I always say that Taiwan, the Chinese, another class of people, mainland Chinese and overseas Chinese and

00:47:32.030 - 00:47:55.639

another classic you want the old, old traditional Chinese virtue, you all have to come to the foreign country and get, get the in mainland and all those things they say, you know, of those I know they are completely different but the basic still there II I

00:47:55.649 - 00:48:21.389

think still in there, you know, right now they study about the uh confusion, the and they, they start, they go back Oh, boy, they miss it all those, all those things. Yeah, that's how I think I say now I'm too old to do anything and I

00:48:21.399 - 00:48:53.030

just enjoy my life. I enjoy, to me. Not, not how much money you have. You enjoy your something? How long that's important. Yeah. Right. Going back to your grocery store. That, uh, oh, ok. What do you mean main competitor on the Chinese to? So every few

00:48:53.040 - 00:49:15.870

blocks here is doing any kind of, any kind of, they have the force over there. Not too far, but you have to do better and treat customer better price better to over that right now, all the HEB and C and all those things, they have to

00:49:15.879 - 00:49:56.449

figure out how to is the price wise. So, you know, you have to feel more items, the property is thin but the, you make it up, you have to use, use the basic uh technique to, to, to sort that's uh you, you use the best thing,

00:49:57.479 - 00:50:26.750

you know, you have the people say the same thing, it something for nothing. They like it and it cheaper, they like it. You miss it human nature. So there, there wasn't any bar. Oh, yeah, they had a lot. Not too far, one garden. Not too far

00:50:26.870 - 00:51:05.840

at that time, Sunday cannot be you make. So you guys are allowed to open on Sundays, beer and alcohol or water or something that you could not tell us another thing. Too. And that's why we lay low. The big store closed and we open, we get

00:51:05.850 - 00:51:25.040

business people is unforgettable. Oh, the big store closed. And they come over and at that time people don't have that many people have the car, private car. You see, they walk on Disney, they can all go to the big store not too far for them. So,

00:51:25.050 - 00:52:08.360

I mean, you know, all everything come, you, you just have to under circumstance, that's all. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not only that, even even from a Chinese association, something like that. Great hold. I remember when I, I had this over and the, the music, we

00:52:08.370 - 00:52:34.229

went to the mill. I remember the mill, the guy who, who, who blow up your car the and he like he, he always say, oh the Chinese conference because we, we don't have a chance to see each other. So we, at that time, 90% come from

00:52:34.239 - 00:53:17.679

our region. Four county from Canton. Uh oh yeah, four counties. They say right now in the mainland China they say you have to include. Yeah. But at that time we say, yeah, we all speak the same language so they can, you know, speak the

00:53:17.689 - 00:53:45.909

home dialect, the feeling kind of communicate each other. So we, we are very fun and there are some friends, some relatives over here, they are, you know, sitting at the party for relaxation, but we work hard and I both also eat in a restaurant in both

00:53:45.919 - 00:54:14.300

years. Thank you. Thank you. Right. They would go just on a Sunday evening with my family who left them. They were few things if his friend had a decade that was in divorce. So there was a gift of love. So the table and uh we get

00:54:14.370 - 00:54:46.790

cooking were talking and that was kind of hard. That's the party they get together. It was a shock for me when I first went to how many people were there at those parties? Certainly we closed our council closed thing. So, was there any uh no, no,

00:54:46.800 - 00:55:09.600

no business. No. Uh You don't need the business? It's simple. No, no strategy. No, no, no, nothing. You just do your best how to get the business. That's all. So that's a new secret. Yeah. Is it not that when you come to? Not that common sense,

00:55:09.879 - 00:55:39.669

that's all I say. Common sense above everything. You know that you're a prince. Uh-huh. How do you start? Oh God, I tell you. That's another story too. OK. What is it when, when, after my operation? I kind of feel not like before anymore. And even doctor

00:55:39.679 - 00:56:02.000

say you better get out the business long hour and so much stress. If you live longer, you better get up. So I say get something in my mind might be the children's grown up. So I will be, you know, uh grocery store working long, too long

00:56:02.010 - 00:56:21.679

hour and then not, not the, uh, you know, life for them for second generation over here, they educated over here and all that thing when they grow up, they are different even more. So I say, well before they are grown to, we might get a little

00:56:21.689 - 00:56:42.520

earlier. And it, I think about, I look in the newspaper, I look for the, um, I saw the print up for three or something like that and I, I know I, I still kept the open truck from the grocery store and I talk to my wife.

00:56:44.139 - 00:57:03.300

But first we want in the for our business too, right? But somehow my wife say it doesn't matter for the flower business. You know, I always have feeling I can learn no matter what I can learn, you know, simple things. But then she say something, she

00:57:03.310 - 00:57:25.889

don't want to uh they live from flower to the funeral home. That's it. That's it no more. I don't even think about it no more. Iiiii I think, you know, the Chinese say too much about the debt. Not too good. So after that, and I look

00:57:25.899 - 00:57:47.409

for the, the printing. So I saw the advertisement on this printing. So we should get in the truck and go over there and look, look at the print shop how he is. We went to Pasadena out there. We went over there I think, did I get

00:57:47.419 - 00:58:12.729

the wrong wrong? I print something out in the phone. You know, we couldn't, I I couldn't believe it my own self and, but look at the paper, they enjoy everything like that. Finally, we find that was a lady and he work, work and something like that.

00:58:12.860 - 00:58:38.530

I think exposed to the, he had simple printing facility in the farm house behind her own house in the little garages. I, so we find she sold me the item compared to what I have in my, in China, there was a big machine and I just,

00:58:39.139 - 00:58:59.989

you know, I think how could that be? And then she explained to me very, you know, at that time I always secure asking, always ask questions. I remember I went to the community college over and then the, the teacher, you know, I've been teaching over here

00:59:00.000 - 00:59:26.449

26 a year. I never have a student. Ask so many questions I see with the, what's his name? Morals have no idea. Those students, the government pay them, go to school to learn a skill. So they don't have the on the welfare different for me. I

00:59:26.459 - 00:59:50.689

want really knowledge it because I need it. I had a, I already bought the machine, everything right there. Wait, wait for me to, to love it. That's a different situation. You know, I'd go back and say we check the newspaper and what is they're looking for

00:59:50.699 - 01:00:34.860

something that at least some way of the American that was one. And yeah, and the owner told us you still have to work hard quick copy at that time, I think the guy who only Prince up to what he told me, you go

01:00:34.969 - 01:00:54.260

the franchise seven. You can look and talk to those people. I said that's good. I always say I take up your work but he was explain it to then he opened this one at the seven quick copy in Houston that are now in now the big

01:00:54.270 - 01:01:16.540

one. But anyway, so the lady out in Patina, he saw me little bit. I look at them even more interest as all the kind of question. Then I can come back and say, well, why should I buy it? Then? I think I can look in some

01:01:16.550 - 01:01:33.439

more and I look in quick copy and I see, ok, I know what it is. The people in downtown people like to walk in there. They don't have the heart or the hassle so much to get the business, the people a little further out in the

01:01:33.449 - 01:01:51.580

suburban community, they had to go outside and get business too. So it's not that when you open the franchise, they come to you, that franchise is good when you have the money, you have the capital and you don't know anything and they help you buy the

01:01:51.590 - 01:02:21.899

equipment and give you the support and things like that. And another thing too about the get into business, I rode to the small American, small commercial, small business department. I tell them I want to get into business in what, what is and how are they? And

01:02:21.909 - 01:02:43.040

they, they get so much research and material, they send me big bag or the document Big Bang like that. At that time, I have time to read, I read those on. Not too much sin, not too much. I put aside and all those things and then

01:02:43.709 - 01:03:07.469

I read something. I like it and they, they even told me make the lease pro and con. It's very important to me. They say, OK, pro what, you know, how much you know, in the thing and all those things they put in the probe, see in

01:03:07.479 - 01:03:27.050

the paper and they can, and you don't know anything like that, they put in the card against something like that. So I think important thing. Have you been in business before? How long? And this and that I, I check that it's good. I, I my experience

01:03:27.060 - 01:03:51.610

and small business might come into the bank. So I, I read all those things like that. I see, I see my pro much more than in the. So I say for me get into the business should be good. So at that time, then I got more

01:03:52.500 - 01:04:20.879

what they call uh definitely look into the premium premium business. Then I go to the quick copy in the interview. The with the I saw that I say, oh, I don't want to pay the high overhead or things like that. Then I talk to the the

01:04:20.889 - 01:04:40.530

machine company. They say they tell you all that, they say I can kill you, you all this like that. So then you don't know, they will the information to you. So this is good for me. So I pick up something, I didn't say anything I look

01:04:40.540 - 01:05:03.500

like. So they learn it a little bit, a little bit from here. Then that I know what kind of equipment I need to sort the basic thing, able to get the press and get a, a play maker. And about playmaker. At that time, when I tell

01:05:03.530 - 01:05:22.379

you, I said I couldn't believe it. Those off there play is so simple then uh it's new to me and like that. And at that time I bought the machine. I don't know what to do with the machine. I thought the A 3 60 bought it

01:05:22.810 - 01:05:45.040

and then bought those equipment and rent the building. You have to pay rent and all those things. Then I bought it. I don't know what it was. Then I went to the community college in ho home, register for the printing class over there. That's how they

01:05:45.050 - 01:06:05.100

teach it to me. I've been here to say, yeah, I never have a student asking me so many questions because I need it. So II I studied over there and I the menu from the book I read, I read and I hold the menu in the,

01:06:05.110 - 01:06:23.955

in the, in the, in the press. I say what's the name of this one? Is this and, and what it, what the function and all those things like that. So on and on. So you are you familiar? You have a little company? You're not scared to

01:06:23.965 - 01:06:51.979

put your hand in there, you gonna get your finger. So anyway, II I stopped that and I also I even print Chinese uh invitation. That's something new. I went, I send the order to Hong Kong order some Chinese time. Oh yeah, that's come in handy. What

01:06:51.989 - 01:07:13.810

I learned in China, how to set the type uh the English and one side, uh Chinese, one side in in the Chinese uh invitation. And I we, we do quite a bit because the only Chinese, oh I can do that. But anyway, I, I lost, I

01:07:13.820 - 01:07:37.090

think II I had to learn myself skill and that about the print it the same thing we I say now business sense come to you how, what kind of customer I will get able to get a uh you know, at that time is good for us.

01:07:37.100 - 01:08:07.149

Government tried to help the minority group people, business. So like AT&T uh all kind of big companies, they had this similar to tell the small business, how to do business with their company, you know, Houston school district, all of those kind of become, they had a

01:08:07.159 - 01:08:30.129

similar because the government take a government, government tell them, look, you have to help us to help this minority people get in business. So they have to do what, what the big brothers tell them to do, they don't do out there, you know? But anyway, it's

01:08:30.140 - 01:08:55.250

good for me. So I always go to those spray at that time. Very beginning. Not too many, I would say 78 black people, one Spanish, one Chinese. That's it. Or a seminar. And I feel I said no, the, those big company, if I get their business,

01:08:56.529 - 01:09:15.459

you know, for them a drop in the bucket, it's nothing for me. Oh, I been busy, busy, busy. You know, I said that's good. If I can get them, it's my customer. So we call them and all things like that. And I had a feeling to

01:09:15.529 - 01:09:42.668

say uh later on I think even in our neighborhood, my wife even go out finger furniture and then all the other, they had the print shop in finger, more equipment than I have come in house pre pre but certain things maybe they cannot do or they

01:09:42.679 - 01:10:12.970

are too busy. Oh, yeah. Another thing too important about the buyer that's important. We treat him good and then he give us a job and then, you know, we do it and I, I remember one time the buyer is the, the, the, the people finger furniture,

01:10:13.370 - 01:10:36.229

the oldest people, you know, he's a friend there, a younger one come in in the business and then the people up in all kind of business, they had the one out in street and they printing and all too, you know, and then the younger one talked

01:10:36.240 - 01:10:59.189

to him, he said, Mr, how come you don't give this uh business like that? He say, and besides, they had the imprint in the house print too and he say, yeah, if I give to them sometime, you know, I don't know because he take the order

01:10:59.200 - 01:11:20.490

from the, they become a different department. He say some the achievement department give me the order and when they come forget it for so long and he gives the order to those people if they delay or something like they never call him, let him know. So

01:11:20.500 - 01:11:37.665

I was stuck. I don't know what to do. Tell those people not do something like that. He said when I deal with the and I don't have any kind of problem like that, they already give us on time and also if not on time, they will

01:11:37.674 - 01:11:55.379

let us know what to expect. And so he can tell the department now these items take that long. So they don't jump on him, they don't get on him, you know. And so he tell them, but naturally he said he's a father is a friend. He

01:11:55.390 - 01:12:16.029

just, he don't want to tell him what to do. It's not what he, you know, he know what he do. So, oh, I need to last picture from him. They put the advertise so much and he know more than I do. He give me the, give

01:12:16.040 - 01:12:37.479

me the paper, give me the ink and tell me, I think the last time I don't know how, how to talk, I see how, then he told me, ok, the black ink you charge me, I think was $5 1000 color in the color in like that.

01:12:37.830 - 01:12:59.439

Is it good? You know, my machine can turn out 12,000 an hour. I'm missy. I, once it set up, I just had to keep water and then some time about 2030 140,000 coming up lots of money and I don't have to spend a penny. They give

01:12:59.450 - 01:13:20.919

me everything like that. So how at the beginning we can make pretty good money on the printing in the shop. That's why we add more equipment and this and that and then more experience and we can get the job for the other things like that. Even

01:13:20.930 - 01:13:42.459

the navy, we get some job from the Navy because you know how you, the people like work for the big company or the government like that. They don't care who you are. People nice to them, they will be giving you business. So how, how, how I

01:13:42.470 - 01:14:07.009

think at the beginning we are very grateful to have this kind of customer support. Us, have the business over the home. But right now it says competition too much. Even my son say I say, yeah. So uh we are working hard. Uh, Saturday. We don't work

01:14:07.020 - 01:14:25.439

some Saturday. I go to, to the lay out work. I do layout work. All myself. Nobody teaching me. I just look at them, come and come and come and said I didn't like this. I like that. You know, I didn't go to school and learn how

01:14:25.450 - 01:14:47.790

to do the layout and all those things come. So later on I get a computer or at that time, computer expensive. And then computer type setting they give you, I think one or three how many a day in the computer company to teach you how to

01:14:47.830 - 01:15:11.660

learn. So I went out there and learn. I asked so much question just like that and, and, uh, the instructor tell the salesman because they had a free, uh, support. If we had some coin at them, they would help us, you know? And then he told

01:15:11.680 - 01:15:30.140

the version about the machine. He said, I think with the legal, we ask you a whole lot question this and that like that. He say, he don't even know how to switch it to switch on the computer, on and off. I really know on and on

01:15:30.149 - 01:15:49.750

the same switch, you know, never see the computer, never exposed to that. You know, my grandchildren would know more than I do. So II, I started learning how they learn but I never even call them one time. You know, I, they had a menu. I read

01:15:49.759 - 01:16:05.839

all there. I teach them about the girl who over there how to run the computer, how to, uh, if at that time, not like now this small computer, you know, at that time we had a chemical in the computer to develop the thing, just like develop

01:16:05.850 - 01:16:30.140

picture, you know. So that was something I know at that time, $17,000 for that one computer. But now those are kind of cheap, cheap, the top 2 $3000 you can get the much more function. Like now we have in our shop, you know, the laser printer

01:16:30.149 - 01:17:00.180

and all those. They are complete different. No more. Yeah. But I learn, you know, and, uh, so a little bit by little bit our business expanding, growing, hire more people, hire more people. Chinese. Like, yeah, I, I get, I bought the Chinese type. Is that from

01:17:00.189 - 01:17:29.540

Hong Kong or mainland? Yeah. Yeah, the Chinese typewriter. I, you had to look for the thing and hold the thing and he did right there. Uh, you know about the newspaper, the, that in the beginning and then, ok, another thing how, how I get in the

01:17:29.549 - 01:18:02.509

newspaper business. That's something mean. I, yeah, same, tell this also last name Lee. And he come over here to the college out in Beaumont and look for a job and find mother. Then he went to San Francisco. I guess things don't go the way he would,

01:18:02.649 - 01:18:27.990

that he come back over here and he come visit me in this world because we are, you know, and he mentioned about that might be uh he is a study uh journalism in Taiwan. Then he mentioned about want to make a little small newspaper. And I

01:18:28.000 - 01:18:54.680

say, well, Chi Chinese community getting bigger and that's it China different from New York to Mexico, congregate in one small area. They all spread out all over. I say, yeah, need something like that to get the news out and all those things like that. And so

01:18:56.290 - 01:19:25.470

well, he is a journalist and he know what to do, write supposed to do for me because I know more people over here you try to get the business and all those, the advertisement, the layout and even though the layout, I still here my, my, my,

01:19:25.600 - 01:19:50.410

my signature in there that signature, I miss him the way how not a car, a little block in advertising and by the, by the little block, how big, how small that's the time I do all of the things about how to do and get the. But

01:19:50.419 - 01:20:19.189

anyway, so we start and then uh his wife used the typewriter type at the beginning. Yeah, at that time because the time is so big, you cannot be too, too many. The paper is so small. So then I use my dark room to reduce them and

01:20:19.200 - 01:20:43.669

fit them. So, you know, being in the printing business, I had the print shop, it enhanced the, the and then later on, I guess he must be, see now he, he go around no more people see the good business. So he started his own business newspaper

01:20:44.330 - 01:21:06.279

at that time in the market. So long then I had to carry the full role. Then I had a student from, uh, and uh, you know, part time come help us and all, but when the examination coming up, they cannot come, then I have to go

01:21:06.290 - 01:21:28.490

out, get new, come back. And I, I don't even know what I'm doing. I have the right article too. You know, I never do those things like that. But I use my and write article and, you know, and many, many articles I, I arrive when they

01:21:28.500 - 01:21:54.310

don't have time but when they hear the exam gone and they come back to work part time, then I, I take him the other day. But overall I already in the community, I think 12 years. Ok. 10, 12 year. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. But anyway, that's too

01:21:54.319 - 01:22:20.330

much for me. I have my business, a food business going on is the newspaper, you know, is not, not my job, you know. So I say, well, at that time, the Vietnamese people come here. They want, I say, OK, and they first, they had some Vietnamese

01:22:20.339 - 01:23:01.609

and Chinese and then later Japanese, I have these people want to be in partnership. Vietnam weeks. No, we close many, many year already. Yeah, I think in that article over the end, I, my, my friend wrote about me and my wife went to China and he,

01:23:01.620 - 01:23:25.560

he was very good. He say uh the, the, the reader of the and you know, when I come back, I had a good report writing about my trip back to China or that he got they over pray about me at that time. I didn't put it

01:23:25.569 - 01:24:06.250

on then later on, I mean, I'm seeing when the, the the vice president so happened in some kind of occasion, he sit together with us in the, in the on the table because uh one come from his

01:24:06.350 - 01:24:30.529

own uh how you call own way of thinking in China in Canton, Macau, Hong Kong, very popular. And and he said even now a lot of people like later in the day, but he come over here from the other visit. So they come over here and

01:24:30.540 - 01:24:56.220

they, they have the party for him to sing to perform like that. So I was the MC on the. So after that, when we sit over there so that uh the that the vice president. And he also say he and he said, Mr Lee, I heard

01:24:56.229 - 01:25:29.109

your name and at that time I said, I see, I never met her before. I never, I say, who told you all about me? He said my boss, you know, she said, oh he only talking about you. I I don't know what he talked about. So

01:25:29.120 - 01:26:03.970

when later on he asked me, do I have any kind of thing I would put in the newspaper? And then that's the one in the, in that article my friend wrote. But at that time I say, oh, I had a really, um, I say this one

01:26:03.979 - 01:26:25.000

of my friend when I was in charge and the, at that time I didn't put it in the paper because I don't want my friends say, oh yeah, he can put anything about himself. And he, he said like that, I don't want the misunderstanding like this

01:26:25.009 - 01:27:09.529

one. I say now my friends already. So and then, and also, and I say, I don't want you, my friend is not want to be understand, they want to say something. I care in that moment. I'm not that kind of more so that and then that,

01:27:09.939 - 01:27:39.169

that put it down, lay out very good. How you going forward, put down over there and then put my friend article. It is very good. So III I put it on how, how the start and all this and how end up in my shoulder, you know,

01:27:39.180 - 01:28:51.279

II I say it was a share or into the position. But anyway, yeah, so I mean, I, I, I've been, we've been but now, yeah, that's right. And at that time, come to the Houston market last commercial publication, that's what when is uh

01:28:53.359 - 01:29:14.910

at the end, buy me a code, then I explained it about it. Now our duty already fulfilled. At that time, we want to communicate among the Chinese. But now more and more they become more paper, they can do all those work we intend to do right

01:29:14.950 - 01:29:39.220

there. You know, I mean, you know, Chinese, Chinese, I don't know what I never have the Chinese formal education, I guess, maybe I read so much and if I had to, I can still write enough, understandable. So the people like and then we go and that's

01:29:39.229 - 01:29:57.290

how the bus, you know, I, I always like say things like that and we still have a whole lot more and there was in the other place they say, don't know what happened the house, we rent it out to somebody. I don't know. And this one

01:29:57.299 - 01:30:31.560

we kept it in our uh adding and my daughter, I don't know how she, she is a lawyer, how she can get hold of the Yeah. Uh yeah. Uh Judy Lee. Yeah, she is a, she is a Yeah, I, I actually went through another, OK, another

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later on June come in, later on iii I always look out for the people to enhance the budget, the the newspaper. But at the very beginning, Judy, I said, Judy, I need to at that time he she went to the college free everything. So, so is

01:30:57.589 - 01:31:22.680

it more like every committee member contribute to the newspaper at the beginning? Yeah. No way. No way. Even for me, I didn't get no way. I, even in my shop I got a whole lot, those kind of layout and nothing. Yeah. Even my employee, he help

01:31:22.689 - 01:31:56.100

out to meet the lim who do the layout of when the, when the publication come, everything in my shop was everybody had to get the paper out when it was in existence is continued to be like, not. Yeah. And you can, you know, another thing, let

01:31:56.109 - 01:32:27.129

me tell you something this so I, you know, commercial uh market just like the battlefield. When I was in, in, I get lots of friends to advertising in the paper and later on and then I heard somebody told me, he said so and so said this

01:32:27.140 - 01:33:04.080

and he said, you, you people, so those are people who kind of lean to Taiwan will be say, oh come and we don't put advertising in the paper so they, they drop you. So this is Yes, yes. Mhm Right coming. Thank I notice you put in

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um a some sort of disclaimer in I think March 1980 newspaper saying that you're politically neutral. So at that time, you face some pressure from the traditional community on the issue. You know, another thing too later on when the, when I'm there and then I, I

01:33:25.479 - 01:33:46.529

make soup if Taiwan government has some news. Me Lincoln, I put them in the same place. I don't want to say, oh, he put me on the number one, he put me on, you know, you never can tell you have think that way. People even you,

01:33:46.540 - 01:34:04.779

you report it but they even, they make up something I say, OK, I put it in there. I don't care because I'm neutral, I'm Chinese American. You know, I've been in here so long. I exposed to the democratic way and all those things like that. I

01:34:04.790 - 01:34:50.180

say another thing about China, I say Taiwan, Chinese right now they use you get together what I'm gonna do? What do you will be both? I hate you. So when I was in the newspaper, I I make sure, you know, so I think some other make

01:34:50.259 - 01:35:17.830

sure those student one. He said, what do you want? I said we put it right here in the front, right there. If they, they still find something to say nothing I can do. So when this thing happened, you said some of the Yeah, yeah. Only newspaper,

01:35:17.870 - 01:35:40.560

our business is 90% local American people in prison. So it doesn't affect us at all like that. But you see, I make me feel bad because I, in my thinking in my mind, I'm not that kind of person but you know, so that they make up

01:35:40.569 - 01:36:16.970

the story. They heard you. I said, OK, well, that's why I say I'm glad that the place close after somebody else. I said, so advertisement um did, did, did you notice a trend probably a change advertisement? Did it start out with main Chinese community and more

01:36:16.979 - 01:36:40.479

and more came in or is it advertisement to meet? Is all the same thing people want to some Chinese business, they will be look for the advertise like one of the, the how you call it the school American school. They want to teach the people how

01:36:40.490 - 01:37:03.950

to uh uh English, how do they get into the school? The high school, the the pass some, some kind of tofu something about their life. And I see they still advertising over there, you know, they, they, they have the need for some people need that kind

01:37:03.959 - 01:37:28.810

of service. So they advertising, you know, sometimes, you know, sometimes the American people but they are short one but not uh because at that time I say one month, how much, three months, how much, six months, how much, one year, how much many, many of them

01:37:28.819 - 01:37:57.700

for six months? One year at that time, like goes to store all the corner. Oh, yeah. And before you started this is the newspaper, there are no other Chinese newspaper in their own family and more people can because I was or people with family and also

01:37:57.709 - 01:38:24.939

the knowledge in, in the newspaper. So these people are just like went to college and not, not too professional. I think that everything I mature, you know, about Judy and volunteer for the English section. Another thing and I the first issue come out all in China

01:38:25.439 - 01:38:53.439

that all our friends, they say, you know, we cannot read Chinese and now you, you put the order in Chinese if you want to know what's going on to do. That's what how I asked it, Julie, I need to that how from second is already start

01:38:53.490 - 01:39:17.229

writing? Oh, they was born here. So this is why you started like I know this is like a change in the setting because you started in English with the in November 1977. So one cover you start from this side is all Chinese and then the other

01:39:17.240 - 01:39:47.049

half is all in English. So that's why you said just because the Chinese community, some of them who can't read Chinese. Yeah. All right. Use that for any because uh I think why? Because I, I can feeling nobody help me, my business, grow my business, keep

01:39:47.060 - 01:40:09.569

me very busy. And the student when they had the exam, I'm dependable. Then I, what I'm gonna do and then another the logo last commercial uh publication. So I say why should you compete? Let them do the job, they do better because they are, they have

01:40:09.629 - 01:40:51.240

in Taiwan and they are professional and so get out of the way, let them have the free field. Yeah. So besides the newspapers is not, you know, I use my concentration on my own business. So that's how the main thing and more the other publication in,

01:40:51.250 - 01:41:14.890

in the, in the Chinese community. So II I don't need anymore kind of going back. How was the paper distributed? You said the Chinese? Ok. All right. We, those people like restaurant Chinese grocery store. We, we just right over, I'm saying right now I take it

01:41:14.899 - 01:41:44.359

over there and punch over here, punch over there and then this should be right there. No subscription. Maybe our town field they want, you know, we get the postage coverage and send it to them but not too many. No, no, no, I think it's 3 50

01:41:49.169 - 01:42:17.220

that in India. Most of the advertising that besides, you know, my, my, my printing or put up a lot expensive, most of it anyway. And student, you know, college student come help me. But all the other ones is free and my labor is free and all

01:42:17.290 - 01:42:43.620

to say why, you know, I give them something but no salary, not like not, not a commercial one. So your main came from you. Oh, yeah. No, but I think at first you said it's uh you and Mrs Lee work 12, 14 hours a day and

01:42:43.629 - 01:43:07.689

later on you employ more people. Yes. Actually we trained to manage them when you started the printing. We also started in article because they noticed that a lot of criminals, they are also in the office week and the experience in some through those right on try

01:43:07.700 - 01:43:34.509

to be on. So we did this very soon after we opened the printing gar and, and last year I got five, much more business in the premium. Yeah. You see the, of supply. Our daughter, she, she's a lawyer now. She helped her over there. And so

01:43:36.379 - 01:44:02.359

at that time, just like, because I went to the minority meeting, get contact all those big company and then by the time they are our customer lead and they, I think they might call them up and, and they give them a good service and rise the

01:44:02.370 - 01:44:31.540

price and so those people would buy from us. Yeah. And my daughter went to college, she helped us. Hi. Mhm. And right, two years after she was graduated she said I didn't go to school to work here. I want to do something, you know, that has

01:44:31.549 - 01:44:59.640

to do with my education and then she left it and by that time I was too, too late years would become and the other and continue with the pre. So, how is the printing business? It really didn't expand it just purely something. Mhm. We don't have

01:44:59.649 - 01:45:26.649

any expensive, uh, equipment. What do we do and drop out anything that we cannot do in our? Mhm. Yeah, a wonderful person business. And, uh, so they do to us that we can have, I guess Sam has to meet Sam on the time he has to

01:45:26.660 - 01:45:53.459

do a certain project. They talk but then he tells them what major competitors in China because I think you said that at first the Chinese printing part, it's only, you had it, did it change over time? Even the, now the China and they do the invitation

01:45:53.470 - 01:46:29.540

too. You, if I'm not there, nobody can do anything. So sooner or later. So the majority of the business that it came from, I think, you know. Yeah. Well, at that time when I start the business, I already figured out Chinese were not that many. I

01:46:29.549 - 01:46:56.370

am in for 70%. I'm not gonna be there. Yeah, 30% Chinese business. I'm always very happy, very satisfied. Uh Late later at the beginning, maybe when we in, in the beginning at the in invitation at that time, nobody do it. And then I really pretty good.

01:46:56.529 - 01:47:25.250

So my, my common sense tell me what I'm thinking is correct. Later on, you cultivate the local business more because you know, a simple thing, you know, and Chinese uh I don't know when to say if I, I'm not there. Last thing you is not that

01:47:25.330 - 01:48:02.359

right because you prove read and the lay out all the use common sense, you know, some people you, you know, you're not, not, not worth the hassle. Yeah. No, thank you, a member of that uh a member of the what the Chinese Professional Club. I, I

01:48:02.370 - 01:48:29.660

was a member of the American Legion, right? And I was the uh president of the and I miss it all, all of the and then do those help your business? No, I'm not too much more of a no, because you know, I've been a president of

01:48:29.669 - 01:48:50.479

the Association and all those things like that when you are in the community so small, you know, they, everybody know each other but not now, now the Vietnamese Taiwanese, the mainland, you know, all those things. That's why how the Chinese councilor they still put in a

01:48:50.500 - 01:49:41.700

much, you know, support me and all like that. At the beginning, the Taiwan government too, she told you every time they come and they order in the restaurant. So I say at that time, not anymore. Now, now the two, they come in there. Uh Yeah. Yeah,

01:49:41.709 - 01:50:24.529

I, I tried but I still want to be anything I can do. No, any kind of volunteer thing. I can do it. I, I will do it. You know how, how, how uh uh right now even, you know, like last time when we went to China,

01:50:24.600 - 01:51:11.950

how many people we went to 21? Oh, that's it. Yeah, that's a Chinese. They say you get the knife all over yourself but not more sharp enough to do any good day. All the, but anyway, I enjoyed it and I get a good game too. Oh,

01:51:11.959 - 01:51:32.220

yeah. The big, the Children, the grandchildren won the big one. I say the big one lady. Stay here. That's my highest score. I, the C AC A we hear about uh 50 60 people, Chinese, mostly uh bowling. And then I bought the highest game. It's not

01:51:34.720 - 01:51:58.200

just uh you know, you, you learn that on your own. That's right. Yeah, we, it very beginning I look at them, this is so simple. You just throw it in the middle, nothing. But later on the more, you know, the more uh tech, tech technique the

01:51:58.209 - 01:52:13.350

now you, you know, they say they say if you can follow through, you can strike. If it just a little bit, you don't follow through, you can spread. Well, you know, I mean, when, when you have a group people like that once a week you get

01:52:13.359 - 01:52:35.799

together, you have the companionship too. Very good. So many years and, and the Children, the John and all those things like that. So you were also the president of the Family Association. I think you were on the board of the credit union. Did that help you

01:52:35.810 - 01:53:18.250

in any way in your business one? No. So, so another thing too, I don't need more than that. I, I get that from, they need some point. Ok, so you were you hello and, or something? And you out, I don't know, on the east side of

01:53:21.629 - 01:53:43.180

several times. So for those businesses like insurance and her doctors office, whatever, it more convenient for them to go to those shops over there. So the um for your printing company to American companies uh did the, the composition of the business change because I think you,

01:53:43.189 - 01:54:14.120

you said the first is some of the big companies and some government jobs did that change over time? You think about business, the specific government big company, once the purchase agent change, then you have to count your luggage. Sometimes they have some connection. So there, you

01:54:14.129 - 01:54:37.069

know, but the, the Chinese and the same thing uh but before I do last menu and get right there and they say, and they might be some partner Vietnamese, they talk might be give a little bit cheap price. I said, you know, at the beginning and

01:54:37.080 - 01:55:00.879

I would be, I may be the competition but I say, ok, let them go. The, we have able to meet our application, pay the bill, the light bill, rent and all this thing. It's ok. But in the beginning you are more husk, you are more about

01:55:00.890 - 01:55:23.270

that. Ok. All right. You wanna uh uh that much I can meet that price. But because I have expenses I had to pay for my employee at the beginning. But I, you know, I just make, that's all get the business in, that's important a different uh

01:55:24.569 - 01:56:08.660

in uh in business. I always say common, common sense. Does it? Yeah. Follow question. Four months. Feel I can not do who love. I love that. That that's a, that was the buyer. Something that how you OK. J No Gcareen love God. You know, we are,

01:56:10.649 - 01:57:08.750

yeah, customer and uh relationship but become different. Doctor Walter. Oh, let me when Jim was ready to pull back from the news program. And that not Vietnamese, Japanese wat A dot I think I got a lady to tell you he's

01:57:08.759 - 01:57:49.569

a professor at the community College. Alcohol. Ok. It's Watanabe. At least this is all very well. Thank you. And, uh, you know, you, yeah, call us any time you have my, you know, I think you ask my wife.